Fire Bull UK – Blogging My Journey to Financial Independence

Category: About Financial Independence

  • My Investment Strategy Explained In Numbers – Scenario Planning Example to 100!

    My Investment Strategy Explained In Numbers – Scenario Planning Example to 100!

    How is Fire actually going to work?

    When first hearing about Fire, my mind was opened up to a new light. Disillusioned by the 9-5:30, 3 hour round commute everyday for the rest of your life until you’re a shrivelled up prune. I now had the way to escape this.

    At the point of discovering Fire I was adamant I would achieve this through intense frugality whilst still being on a modest income at the time. I would be alone forever and my costs would never change in real terms (adjusted for inflation), even though we was in the middle of the pandemic. Even when going away, I would only ever go and stay at hostels and travel on a backpacker budget like some real life Peter Pan. No issues right….

    Now a few years have passed and more life experience has been gained, this isn’t quite what the reality will be. But this time has proved that it is almost impossible to predict what will happen the future. However, there is still every reason to try and put yourself in the best position possible with the hand you are dealt. It’s also quite fun tbf.

    Looking at this I have categorised my financial lifespan into 4 separate stages with differing needs given my age and life position:

    The Strategy

    Stage 1 – Accumulation Phase

    In this section I have been and will continue to work full time, be mindful on spending, to earn more than I spend, create a surplus and invest this in index funds, on top of what I have already invested into my Stocks and Shares ISA.

    Whilst I’m calling it the accumulation phase, this won’t be the case in all the years. In late 2025 we are hoping to do a working holiday over in Australia and travel through a few countries whilst we are on the way to and back from our trip, so in these years a surplus in savings will not be the case.

    Also in this period I will look to purchase a primary place of residence (home, not an investment), which will be a large amount of the portfolio being put down for an initial deposit, then increased outflows paying off the mortgage going forwards.

    Stage 2 – Mini Retirement/Coast FIRE

    By this stage my portfolio should be big enough that I will be able to ease off the gas workload and use some of the wealth I have accumulated to buy gain some more freedom in my life to enjoy it as much as possible.

    This might be in the space of taking a part time job or fill fixed term contract roles, then take a few months off to to some travelling in the gaps. I have spoke about the different Fire methods that could be taken in this post.

    In this stage my Fire Portfolio will be going down as I access some of the funds within this coming from my Stocks and Shares ISA and Cash Reserves. I am hoping to keep enough within this to bridge the gap until I can access my private pension.

    Stage 3 – Access to Private Pension

    With the stocks and shares ISA taking a bit of a battering in stage 2, having the ability to access my private pensions will be a warmly welcome. I am not aiming for this pension to be too high for the primary reasoning that I want to be able to access more of my funds earlier, so focus on putting my savings into the ISA. Whilst pension contributions are tax free, the withdrawals are part of taxable income, so I don’t want the pension becoming tax inefficient if it becomes too large.

    At this stage the mortgage should be paid off so this will mean a large reduction in my cash outflows, also easing the burden of my portfolio. Fingers crossed I will still be healthy enough to be active and able to have some adventurous holidays and enjoy nature at the early part of this stage.

    Stage 4 – Access to State Pension and Equity Release

    Putting this into the calculation was morbid, planning for the end of your own life,. That’s even despite generously planning to live up to the age of 100 (First century I’d complete after years of failing as a batsmen). Carrying on the morbid theme, this stage would be the longest of the 4.

    I would need to have enough to cover and long period of time and increased care costs if/when required. Given that I have been likened to Harry Maguire, for what I hope was my aerial ability, by some opposition this year (cheekily from someone who looked like Luke Chadwick), the damage from heading is food for thought of what I will be like in my later years. To cover the increased costs of care, I would look to release house equity at this stage.

    By this point I will hopefully qualify to get a state pension in, even if not satisfying the full qualifying years I would look to received around 70% of the full state pension from the full time and part time work I have accumulated.

    Scenario Example in Numbers and Assumptions: 

    Obviously it is extremely unlikely that the below will occur, but I would argue I have been extremely conservative on the numbers. Assumptions to the forecasting are explained below. I have also done a scenario as an individual and a second scenario with shared portfolio.

    Cashflows adjusted for inflation

    The Cash Outflows and Inflows are in real terms in today’s monetary value. Increasing costs in line of inflation would make the example messy so I just wanted to avoid it.

    Age

    I have been very optimistic here to say I will live up to 100. Whilst there’s no logic for thinking this, it is worthwhile planning with the assumption I will live a long life and want to be prepared for if this scenario was to happen.

    Growth Rate

    The growth rate used in this scenario is 4% after inflation, in line with Mr Money Moustache’s post as linked here. Whilst past results are not a reflection of future earnings, 4% seems pretty conservative, especially in the accumulation phase where dividends will be reinvested and returns have been higher historically. The growth rate in my scenario is based on the end of year position, which again is more conservative than what is likely to happen in reality.

    For perspective below is the results of some the global index tracker I use and the MSCI Index Tracker over the years. Clearly the returns fluctuate and are hardly ever at 4%, but with no crystal ball, 4% is the constant rate used in this scenario. If returns are weak at certain times, I’ll try and work at these times and where it is stronger, I may look to use some of the surplus cash of the return to gain some freedom in good times.

    Vanguard Global All Cap Returns Last 5 Years
    MSCI Returns From 1979
    Income

    In terms of full time income, I have based this on the assumption that I will stay at my current seniority level and will not gain any promotions in this time, and income going up in line with inflation. This is being on the conservative side of forecasting. In the couples scenario, I have even thrown in a few maternity income years just to have a play about (can picture the GF’s face cringing as she reads this haha)

    For my part time income years aiming for 2/3 days work a week, again I have put a conservative amount of income. I am unsure if this would be part time income or contract jobs in my current line of work, or if I would move into a different field. It’ll be more likely I will be filling in for maternity posts so 9 month positions and 3/6/9/12 months off at a given time.

    Not factored in to this scenario was any inheritance that might be received in this time. I’m not sure what or when such inflows would be included so have left out.

    Expenditure 

    Expenditure totals input are below what are suggested by the retirement living standard website. Looking through this and my prior spend, I would class myself somewhere in between the minimum and comfortable spend bracket, and have factored my spend accordingly with fluctuations at different times. Pension Access Ages and Values 

    The Pension Access Age may change due to government policies put in place, so the risk of these being altered is reasonable. With an aging population, the voting power of pensioners is quite strong, so it’s unlikely that there will be drastic changes to the policy. However, I have increased my access age for both Private Pension and State Pension by a few years compared to the current access ages.

    Example 1 – As an Individual

     

     

     

     

    Example 2 – As a Couple

     

     

    Conclusion

    This is just a load of what-ifs that will not happen and this just got me through a slow day at work!

    But in all seriousness, even with all of the pessimistic and conservative estimations used in this scenario, there was a total of 10 extra full time working years in each scenario for my current position, with plenty left at the end of life.
    Whilst the number of part time working years is higher than I ideally want to have, it’s possible these could be replaced by a couple extra full time years and I do believe the spending in the scenario can be reduced without many pain points. Am I just deluded?!
    I’m sure there’s plenty of things I have under/overestimated or forgotten completely. But the plan will to review my financial position on regular intervals, look at my life position at the time and plan and act accordingly.
    If there’s anything else you think you will be including let me know.
  • What FI?

    What FI?

    What Are The Different Versions of FIRE?

    In this post I will be going through some of the different types of FIRE that can be taken in pursuit of obtaining the life you want through gaining financial independence. 

    There’s No One Fire to rule them all?! 

    Long story short, no. There isn’t only one way for everyone to live their life and I doubt everyone’s retirement will look the same. Using this there are different types of FIRE that can be undertaken using your finances to enjoy the rest of your life. 

    Retirement Definition 

    The definition of retirement – the action of someone leaving a job and ceasing to work.

    The definition of work – An activity that uses physical or mental effort, usually for money. 

    So work is usually for money, but it’s more about the effort. By this definition, it means if once retired and no one did any sort of work, we’d all do our best Micky Flanagan impressions doing Proper F*ck all (great comedy sketch). Obviously this isn’t the truth, so the definition of retirement is down to interpretation. In reality, people want to still put in effort, but just elsewhere.

    In the example of a footballer, they might retire from their playing career in their 30s or even late 20’s if injuries permit, but plenty of them still go into other fields after hanging up their boots, even if they have millions in the bank. Whilst some will enviably enjoy their riches, others will go into coaching, punditry roles, some create their own businesses and others might want to put more effort into their family lives (that’s a lot of effort in Kyle Walker’s case).

    Types of Fire

    Lean Fire

    Lean fire is achieved through being frugal and retiring with a low expenditure, meaning your Fire Portfolio doesn’t need to be as large. This means Fire can be achieved earlier, a way for people who have lower paying jobs to achieve fire. This is typically what the Average Joe would believe FIRE consists of, and typically not the end goal that most people looking for financial independence are pursuing. 

    This is suitable for people who are typically frugal and undertake activities that they enjoy requiring little expenditure and desire for minimalism. It is also possible to achieve this method using UK tax efficient wrappers only, such as an ISA and if all available, topping up with a pension at the access age (whenever that will be). 

    If you are someone who isn’t attached to your current location, you could move to another area in the country where house pricing is lower than you currently are. Going further on this, if you live in a wealthy country, there is the possibility of looking to migrate to a country where there is a lower cost of living and achieve Fire earlier than if you stayed put. 

    The dangers of Lean Fire are that if their is a downturn in the markets early into retirement it could eat up a lot of your portfolio and you wouldn’t be able to live off of this, as there are not many extra costs that can be cut out from your expenses. 







    Fat Fire 

    On the other end of the Fire spectrum, Fat Fire is when someone is able to create an extremely large portfolio, and the are able to live a lavish lifestyle once they leave their career. To be able to achieve this will require a high paying job, or a sizeable inheritance. Alternatively this can be achieved my putting in a few more years, but still retiring well before pension age. 







    Coast Fire

    Coast Fire involves hitting a specified total prior to retirement and not contributing anymore to your Fire pot, leaving it to grow until you reach the age you want to start withdrawing from you pot (preservation age). All current expenses until preservation age would then be covered by your income coming in prior to this. 

    Once reaching Coast Fire, current outgoings would be reduced due to not making further investments. From there, you could earn the same money and  upgrade your lifestyle if you really wanted to, go part time, or move into a different career. 

    The below link provides some good detail on this version of Fire.

    https://walletburst.com/coast-fire-grid/

    Barista Fire

    Barista FIRE, your Fire Portfolio will not currently have enough to cover all of your expenditure using for 4 percent rule, but there difference between your spend and your portfolio income will be subsidised through topping up your income through part time or casual work whilst also drawing out from your Fire portfolio.






    Mini Fire

    With the other options (Lean, Coast and Barista) there can be the argument that at the time of going for early retirement, that you are at your highest stage of earning power in your career and you are leaving money on the table that could enhance your life.

    One way to tackle this is to take mini retirements throughout your Fire journey and go back into your career at a later date. This will allow you to enjoy your Fire pot at an earlier stage and top this back up whilst you have stronger earning power. Looking at my scenario, this is an option I am seriously considering. The though of taking some time off to travel the world and supplement this at different times is suitable with where I am in my life. 

    There is the argument that with career breaks, employers will be put of but that’s a gamble that sounds worth it. If going for a maternity leave role, why would the employer be worried about what you do after you have filled the role. Maybe there is one Fire to rule them all…..


  • Why FI

     Why Pursue Financial Independence 

    Why not spend your money now? What is the point of pursuing Financial Independence? Life is finite and you never know what’s round the corner. Off the top of my pea brain there’s a few reasons to look to go down this path that I’ll briefly list here. 
    Build a safety net: 
    Being someone who’s pretty risk averse, the idea of spending all income as it gets into your account just sounds pretty scary of me. As we said before you never know what’s around the corner, and the pot towards FIRE could just help you out of shit hits the fan. 
    Fuck You Money:
    You ever been asked the simplest thing from your manager and thought to yourself “You do it yourself cunt”. No, just me then… But I’m sure there’s times you just feel like you’ve had enough of work. If you’re unfortunate enough to be in a job that is really bringing you down it might be best to leave and give yourself a rest. Having this portfolio might help you allow you to do this whilst you look for a different role. 
    Career Change: 
    Similarly to the above you might just have enough of the career you’re in and may look to jump into something new, or go into going self employed instead working for a company.  Most likely when jumping into a new career you’ll need to start at a lower salary than you was on in your previous job. Having a buffer could be vital bridging the gap between salaries during the initial starting stage. 
    Travel:
    There’s the saying about your when you’re young you have the energy and time without the money, then when you’re a little older the money and energy without the time, and at retirement age the money and time but not the energy. What a depressing saying, so let’s bun that off!
    Give yourself some time in your younger years to go make some memories and happiness. Have you heard anyone who’s ever been on a trip to a different part of the world and said it was wank? Even when things haven’t gone to plan on people’s travels, there’s usually a good story/lesson to get from it. 
    Charity Work:
    Similarly to travelling maybe you haven’t been able to get the time to help on a cause that has a lot of meaning to you, Financial Independence can allow you the time to help on a cause that is much greater on yourself. One thing I know I want to do is go and volunteer at an animal sanctuary. If I can do this before I don’t have the physicality to be of benefit to the cause brilliant. 
    Health and Fitness:
    Getting stuck in a rut in them long days where you’re at your desk all day and don’t have the time to exercise or even prepare a healthy meal will be a huge detriment to your overall health on top of the mental stresses of work. Financial Independence can give your the time back to really be able to look after your self mentally, physically and nutritionally. 
    Family/Relationships: 
    You often hear about how late nights at work whilst having a young family is a regret to many a parent. Mr Money Moustache didn’t have this problem. In his pursuit of Financial Independence he and his wife were able to retire from their corporate jobs in their 30’s, allowing them to be in their words “Super Dad and Super Mum”. Whilst it doesn’t automatically make you a better parent, having the option to spend more time with your kids is something I’d love to have when I become a parent. Need to lose my virginity first… 
    Any others that spring to mind, or think I’m chatting a load of bull, feel free to add your thoughts in the comments. Thank you for reading 🙂